I do understand the position the Classification Board is in. The rating system for publications is limited and the next step up from M is R, which requires the publication to be sold in a plastic wrapper. If this was a video then an additional classification of MA15+ physically restricts the publication to people 15+.
Now that graphic novels are a thing again, it is time to review the ratings system to give the Classification Board more options, especially for graphic novels like this.
In the case of Gender Queer, the publication does foster debate in a way that will help some kids, however the author chose to add a layer of explicit sex and sexual talk that weakens the use as a serious discussion starter.
The threat of a restrictive rating may encourage publications that are reasoned and responsible rather than cynical and exploitative.
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Senator Roberts: Thank you for being here today. I think these questions will probably go to Mr Sharp. I will leave that to you, Ms Jolly. My questions reference the book entitled Gender Queer: A Memoir. Are you familiar with it?
Ms Jolly: Yes, indeed.
Senator Roberts: Amazon lists this book as suitable for people only 18 years of age and over. The Classification Board has reviewed the book and given it a rating of M, which is a recommendation only. It is not legally binding. According to your website, ‘M’ is, and I quote: Unrestricted classification, meaning any child of any age can access the book with a recommendation that it not be made available to under-15s. Is that correct?
Ms Jolly: That’s correct.
Senator Roberts: The material in Gender Queer: A Memoir is what we would have called a cartoon book; it has a fancy name these days.
Ms Jolly: Graphic novel.
Senator Roberts: Thank you. This is very graphic. It has full oral sex depiction between two people. Is my accurate representation of the classification of Gender Queer: A Memoir correct?
Ms Jolly: It’s what the classification board gave, yes. It is an unrestricted publication with a rating of M and consumer advice that it is not suitable for readers under 15 years of age. Yes, that’s correct.
Senator Roberts: Queensland commonly has a child’s library card for under-12s. It is probable a child under 12 years could view this in a public library but not borrow it. New South Wales has no such children’s card, so a child of any age could borrow this book. If a child even under 10 years, for the sake of argument, were to borrow this book and check it out using the automated checkout, with no adult supervision required, would the library have broken an actual law?
Ms Jolly: I’m not in a position to answer that.
Senator Roberts: This book is commonly read to children as part of a Drag Queen Story Hour event. If a drag queen chose to read this book to an audience of children, would that person have broken any law?
Ms Jolly: I can’t answer that question.
Senator Roberts: Minister, this is a matter of policy. The next step up from ‘M’ in your classification system for written works is ‘R’, which is restricted to sale in a sealed wrapper. I note that you have more options for video material but only limited options for classifications in written work. Is there nothing in between that for kids having exposure to this book and books only able to be sold in a sealed wrapper? Are you coming up with another classification, or will you, to protect children?
Senator Carol Brown: The classifications are as you outlined, Senator Roberts.
Senator Roberts: It allows graphic material through that is not suitable for young children. Will you protect those children?
Senator Carol Brown: The book that you referenced, Gender Queer: A Memoir has consumer advice for children. It is not recommended for children under 15 years.
Senator Roberts: But children under 15 years old can still access it.
Senator Carol Brown: I’m not sure what you are saying to me about access in Queensland.
Senator Roberts: I will make it clear, Senator Brown. My intention is not to get this book banned. Adults can have a look at it. Will you introduce a new classification for graphic novels, as for videos, of 15-plus?
Senator Carol Brown: Well, I can say to you that I think the classification system that we have is robust. The Classification Review Board is an independent merits review board. I don’t see any need to introduce another step or another level.
Senator Roberts: How can you say that when I have said that this is a graphic book? It is a well and truly graphic novel. It is available to children under 15. They can get hold of it in libraries just like the previous book.
Senator Carol Brown: The advice is that it’s not recommended for readers under 15 years old.
Senator Roberts: That is probably an enticement for a 10-year-old or a 12-year-old. Can’t something be done about this?
Senator Carol Brown: I have responded, Senator Roberts.
Senator Roberts: Thank you.
Chair: Thank you very much.
Ms Jolly: I will go back to your question, Senator, about breaking any laws. The ‘M’ unrestricted classification, as I think you are trying to allude to, is not a legally enforceable classification.
Senator Roberts: Thank you for that follow-up. I appreciate that, Ms Jolly.
We must protect the children as an absolute priority
These responses are a joke. And we actually pay these people to oversee, monitor and make recommendations about material that is clearly not appropriate for children. I think we might need to “review and make some “recommendations” about these people who are in charge of protecting our children.
Senator Carol Brown is exceptionally obtuse, if not outright demonic. She doesn’t care one iota for corrupting children with debased filth.
Brown should be sacked as l think if our constitution had a fifth amendment it would have had heavy usage there for sure. PATHETIC on her behalf !
What ever happened to protecting children?
It is every parents/ persons duty to protect our young .
Please keep up your good work Malcolm.
As a parent of school aged children I’m appalled by Sen Brown’s complete lack of engagement with your questioning. Do people such as this think the areas entrusted to them are their own personal fiefdom?! You asked questions that are exactly what i as a parent would like. It’s evident that genres have shifted to the point that a new classification is entirely warranted & ought to be discussed plainly, not deflected with political sophistry. She is not doing what she’s being paid to do, not representing the broader constituency equally. Thanks Malcolm for raising this.
Miss Brown is as boring as her name.
There seems to be an agenda to make sure children do get to see this stuff. Of course kids are going to look this up under 15 in exactly the same way that we used to look up rude words in the dictionary. it is insanity that our children are being exposed to this stuff at inappropriate ages.
Either Brown doesn’t understand Roberts or she pretends to not understand which would be wicked. Its appalling.