I joined Alex Jones of Infowars to talk about the same agenda that is being seen across Australia, the US, Britain, Canada, New Zealand—all nations of the British Commonwealth. Each of these countries is dominated by what I call the Uni-Party, the red and blue teams pushing the same agenda. Behind them are internationalists, unelected globalists,and corporate fronts controlled by a powerful few.

Transcript

Alex Jones: All right. I wanted to get this guy on for years. I know it’s the middle of the night. We really appreciate him joining us from Queensland, Australia. He is the main guy, the most prominent one of great people in Australia that are battling the Great Reset, the globalist takeover, and they are one of the main testing grounds, so is the UK, so are places like Italy and Germany and Canada, and everything you see done there is going to happen here. I know most of our audience cares about everybody in the world. Some people say, “Well, why are you covering Australia so much?” Hypothetically, if Martians blew up Paris, I’d be against it because obviously we’re next. I mean, we need to understand this. They’re fighting the same global corporate BlackRock, ESG social credit score programme that we are slowing down and stopping and he has been charging ahead. 

He’s an Australian leader. He’s a member of the One Nation party and has been a senator for Queensland since 2019. He also served in the Senate from 2016, 2017, and he’s been through a lot. He exposes the carbon tax fraud and the manmade climate change garbage. Find him on X, @MRobertsQLD, and we’ll put that on screen for you. You need to follow what he’s saying because whatever he’s talking about is about two years ahead of us on average. So, he joins us. He sent us a lot of topics, a lot of clips. He’s really prepared. We appreciate him getting up in the middle of the night or early morning to do this. We’re going to cover the waterfront here, and he sent us a lot of documents as well. 

So, Senator, it’s great to have you here, and we’re all together in solidarity against the same enemy. We share a lot of the same culture, so we’re in this together. I mean, I’ll jump in some and bring in some clips and topics, but to kind of give you the floor here to start where you think is most important. Thanks so much for being here. 

Malcolm Roberts: You’re welcome, Alex, and thank you so much for what you’re doing. You’ve been fighting a line battle until fairly recently, and now people recognise that your credibility is very, very high. So, thank you so much for what you’re doing. But essentially, what’s happening is your country, Britain, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, all descendants from the British Commonwealth, are all ruled by a red and a blue team, what I call the UniParty, and they’re all the same… They’re pushing the same basic policies. It’s driven by these internationalists, these globalists, these unelected parasites who are fronts for big corporations, who are fronts for a few people that own them and control them. 

Alex Jones: If they could convince us we’re bad and that we have no life force and that we have no survival instinct, then we’ll all roll over and be slaves and be sterilised and basically just phased out. I mean, that’s it. The decision’s been made by The Limits to Growth, the Club of Rome, the World Economic Forum to build a post-human future, and it’s a mad scientist project and we have to get people to face it. It sounds crazy, but now the WEF is very public about it. The New York Times has headlines looking forward to the end of humanity. I’ve been in the grocery store, I’ve seen magazines, “Humans are bad. Looking forward to the end of humans.” They want us to hate ourselves, so we get rid of that empathy and then accept their globalist, anti-human programme. It’s really, for me, simple. 

Malcolm Roberts: You’re absolutely correct. They want us to hate ourselves. They want us to hate each other. They want division. They want fear. During COVID, we saw the same things, fear and isolation and separation, making us feel as though we’re alone and individual and vulnerable, and nothing can be further from the truth. 

Video: It’s become clear that people in this country and globally have been steamrolled. It is also clear that it has been coordinated globally. It is also clear that it has been integrated not just over six months, not just over two and a half years, but it has been planned over decades. The changes to legislation in this country were done so that they could control doctors and people. But the people are waking, and it’s thanks to people like Dr. Altman and all the presenters here today, thanks to people like Senator Babet and Craig Kelly. We know and we knew that this is all bullshit and that we’ve been had. 

Malcolm Roberts: Both parties are pushing this agenda. They stole farmers’ property rights, which is fundamental, they’re destroying family, they’re controlling speech, they’re destroying religion, bad-mouthing Christianity, which gave us our Western Civilization, the fundamentals of our Western Civilization, our values, and they’re putting controls in place like this social media control that you’re talking about. They’re doing all the things that a communist party would do because they are communist in their approach. I mean, I’m very proud of my country, but I loved America. I mean, America, and I’ve got to put a caveat on that, has been decimated in the last 30 years thanks to- 

Alex Jones: I want to ask- 

Malcolm Roberts: … both the Obamas, the Clintons. I mean, you’ve been ruled by criminals. 

Where do you start, Alex? It’s pervasive. We’re in the middle of an indoctrination war, an information war, which is the title of your show. We’ve been saying that for years. But essentially, what’s happening is your country, Britain, Canada, New Zealand, Australia, all descendants from the British Commonwealth, are all ruled by a red and a blue team, what I call the UniParty, and they’re all the same… They’re pushing the same basic policies. They’re pretending to be different. And some of the people in the Liberal Party in Australia, for example, the blue party in Australia, are different, but the majority are following like sheep. And what we’re seeing is the same globalist policies, the United Nations, the World Health Organisation, the World Economic Forum, and the policies that’ll make BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street, First State all rich. They’re pushing what’s happening in our country. The agenda is driven by these internationalists, these globalists, these unelected parasites who are fronts for big corporations who are fronts for a few people that own them and control them. 

Alex Jones: Absolutely. And of course, the jewel in their crown has been climate change, carbon taxes, the global corporate rules, the regimens, and now they’re bringing in COVID as their lockdown excuse, which they admit are training rules for it. Let’s talk about then your awakening and what’s happening in Australia, because it’s happening everywhere, and then walk through the stratagems that are involved in and then how we dismantle this, how we stop it. 

Malcolm Roberts: Well, I first became involved… I didn’t know anything about this. What you would’ve been saying in 2009, I would’ve probably laughed at. And then I got involved in the climate fraud, exposing the climate fraud. I’m a mining engineer by training. I’ve worked in leadership and management at corporate levels and at mine sites, and I’ve been trained as a mining engineer to keep people alive underground. That means I have to understand atmospheric gases. So, I just knew that carbon dioxide cannot do what they’re saying it can do, “It’ll boil the planet.” It’s not going to boil the bloody planet. It’s nature’s essential fertiliser for plants. So, when they started demonising carbon dioxide… I worked in New Zealand for a client over there for a year. Our family went over there. When we came back, I saw it was a rage in this country, and so I said, “This is bullshit.” 

So, I started researching it and I found out the science is absolute crap. There is no science backing it up whatsoever. So, I then started exploring further. I explored the people who were pushing it. That was the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change. I found out that the whole thing was rigged. And then I found out who was driving it and the motives, and it’s just for the same things that globalists do everywhere, control and wealth transfer. There’s a bigger and nastier thing going on. We had a wonderful scientist here called Bob Carter. Professor Bob Carter was an eminent climatologist. He understood the science, and he and I were speaking around the country in various places, all voluntary. He did a marvellous job. 

Anyway, one day he said to me, Alex, “This climate change stuff must be the biggest fraud ever,” and I said, “Bob, it’s not even close,” and he said, “What do you mean?” And I said, “Well, look at the monetary system. Look at the way they issue currency, make it out of thin air,” and he said, “You’ve got a point, okay,” and I said, “But that’s not the worst. The worst is the anti-human scam.” Alex, as you know, and many of your listeners probably know, the fundamental problem is an anti-human problem. They’re portraying humans as uncaring, greedy, rapacious, unkind. We just don’t give a damn about the planet. Nothing could be further from the truth. 

When a foal is given birth from the mare, within 20 minutes, it’s up and about on spindly legs, awkward and it’s trotting and then it sidles up to its mother and has a drink. And then within a few months, it’s eating grass and moving with the herd, completely alone, completely independent. But a human baby, when you and I were born, we were about so long and we were completely helpless for years, and that shows that humans… The fact that you are here, the fact that I’m here, the fact that people are watching this, shows that someone cared for each of us because that is the fundamental trait. The human traits that set us apart are love, care, and reason, although I sometimes wonder about the reasoning skills, but you know what I’m getting at, and that sets us apart. But we are vulnerable, we are dependent for many, many years and the fact that humans actually care about us- 

Alex Jones: Empathy. 

Malcolm Roberts: … is evidence that we are here. 

Alex Jones: Well, absolutely. The real studies show, in most cases, humans make the environment better and not worse. There’s obviously some issues, but we’re cleaning those up. But you hit the nail on the head here. And Elon Musk, after they basically kidnapped his son and sterilised him and his brother almost died in a poison shot, he’s now fully awake and says, “Look, I know the globalist,” and he went back decades ago to the founders of Google saying, “We need to get rid of the people and don’t be pro-human.” He explains it’s a death cult. 

If they could convince us we’re bad and that we have no life force and that we have no survival instinct, then we’ll all roll over and be slaves and be sterilised and basically just phased out. I mean, that’s it. The decision’s been made by the Limits to Growth, the Club of Rome, the World Economic Forum to build a post-human future, and it’s a mad scientist project and we have to get people to face it. It sounds crazy, but now the WEF is very public about it. The New York Times has headlines looking forward to the end of humanity. I’ve been in the grocery store, I’ve seen magazines, “Humans are bad. Looking forward to the end of humans.” They want us to hate ourselves, so we get rid of that empathy and then accept their globalist, anti-human programme. It’s really, for me, simple. 

Malcolm Roberts: You’re absolutely correct. They want us to hate ourselves. They want us to hate each other. They want division. They want fear. During COVID, we saw the same things, fear and isolation and separation, making us feel as though we’re alone and individual and vulnerable, and nothing could be further from the truth. When people stand up, we have very strong care, reasoning ability, and love. But at the same time, Alex, Maria Montessori, the world’s greatest studier of human behaviour and human development, she’s dead now, she died in the ’50s I think, wonderful woman, highly objective, and a huge volume of work and very, very accurate. We go through planes of development when we grow. In the first six years… Well, she said the critical years for the formation of both character and intellect are birth to six. We don’t form ourselves until we’re around about six, and then we don’t start getting intellectual ability reasoning skills until about nine. 

So what that means, Alex, is that you and I and every human on this planet created ourselves, fabricated ourselves before we could intellectually reason. That means it wasn’t God who made me. God created me, but I fabricated my ego. So, what we’ve got is we’ve got these parasitic globalist billionaires, parasitic globalist corporation run by the billionaires who are basically evil and separate from the rest of humanity in that they think they’re superior because they fabricated that. Underneath all of that is fear. Always, Alex, these people are after control. They’re after wealth transfer and, from us to them, they want to make us serfs. Christiana Figueres who used to lead the UN Framework Convention on Climate Change and other senior bureaucrats in the UN have admitted. I mean we don’t need to make this stuff up. They’ve admitted that their agenda is a new world order, a new economic order. 

What’s his name? Maurice Strong, who fabricated global climate change, he said he had two aims in life. One was to put in place an unelected socialist global governance, his words, and the other one was to de-industrialise Western Civilization. No more of these things and no more lights, no more electricity, no more power, no more roads. They want us back in the Dark Ages, back in the cave. That’s how inhuman these people are, but they want the good life. They want us to be serfs to look after them. I mean, we are looking at their own words. They’re telling us with their own words and they’ve told it repeatedly, World Economic Forum, United Nations. 

Alex Jones: And you stand up, we’ve got some of these clips coming up, we play them almost every week, in the Senate and you look them right in the eyes and expose their operations, and I know they’ve come after you, but let’s talk about the censorship systems. I see the policies. Without even votes, they’re trying to enforce where the government can break in your social media and even poses you and then put you in jail for what they’ve done. We see other senators calling for Elon Musk’s arrest. We see similar things in the EU and Brazil. So, again, you guys are really the test case, along with New Zealand, with the WEF minion [inaudible 00:14:17] and Australian leaders saying, “Don’t look at the sunset. Don’t talk to your neighbours.” I mean, this is a wild cult. Your current leader saying he wants to arrest people for memes. Tell us about the WEF, UN push legislation that they’re trying to bring into Australia to silence the people. 

Malcolm Roberts: Well, you’re hitting the nail on the head, Alex, because we have a red party, which is the Labour Party. It’s supposed to be socialist, and we have a blue party, which is the Liberal Party and is in coalition with the National Party that’s supposed to be free enterprise capitalist, and they’re both bullshit. Their policies are almost identical. When you look at it fundamentally, their policies are identical. There’re slight variations in extremity. Every major climate and energy policy, which has been destroying our country since 1996, has been introduced by the liberal nationalists, the capitalists, the conservatives. This is the way they parade themselves. And then each time, Labour comes in and ramps it up. 

Now, when we look at the suite of policies that you are talking about with the control policies, the media control policies, we are looking at the Digital Identity Bill, for example, which enables the government to sell our data, sell it to corporations overseas. That’s the next step in what they’ll be doing. Their current status is they make one massive database with all the other departmental databases filtered into one now. That’s going to be hacker’s paradise and also enable control. Then the next step, and they’ve said this, both liberals and the Labour Party in their draught bills have said this, they want to sell it off to corporations. So, for me to go and get my health data, I will have to access a private corporation and pay them for my data, pay them to access my data. 

Then the next part is the misinformation, disinformation bill. When they don’t define disinformation, they don’t define misinformation accurately in detail, specifics rather, and they also make it a crime to say certain things that go against the government narrative. Now, the government will decide what is misinformation, what is disinformation, and what is serious harm. I was one of the senators in the Senate inquiry yesterday, and no one could… I asked several people, several witnesses, “What’s the definition of serious harm?” and they said they don’t know. 

So, what they’re setting us up for is… Both parties are setting it. The liberals introduced this bill, the Labour Party is now bringing it to a vote. We’ve also got the identity verification data bill, which is about setting up biometric surveillance cameras so that they can see who you’re driving with, who you’re mixing with, who you’re travelling with, who you’re engaging with. These are the sorts of things that they’re setting up, but they’ve already got 15 major cities, as you well know better than anyone else on the planet, in Oxford and other places in Britain. 

The other thing, Alex, is what we’re seeing in Australia is happening in the other British colonies, former British colonies, America, Canada, New Zealand, Britain itself, and Australia. So, this is coordinated globally. It’s coordinated globally, and we don’t even need the evidence now of what Maurice Strong and others are saying to put in place a global governance, unelected socialist global governance. It’s there and it’s coming, and the best thing to do is to stand up and tell them to go to hell, and that’s what we’ve been doing. 

Alex Jones: Well, that’s right. Again, you mentioned the same things here. The Democrats are not trying to take over big tech, it’s one conglomerate, so they can get direct control. Same thing’s happening in Europe. But when they get all the data and the government, quote, “controls” the data, they then have an internet ID. They always do it in the name of protecting children in the US and Australia, it’s all the same. And then once they have all that data, they use that to punish you when you don’t behave the way they want. 

Malcolm Roberts: That’s exactly it, a social credit system. That’s what we can see coming. 

Alex Jones: What is the climate in Australia? I mean, it looks to me like people really woke up during COVID and it seems like they’ve got major opposition. What’s happening? 

Malcolm Roberts: That’s correct, but majority of people are still asleep, Alex. We’ve got a long, long way to go. The climate fraud, as I call it, that was starting to get somewhere. But then on Instagram, for example, just before COVID arrived, we had very slow growth on Instagram. And then COVID arrived, and we took a very strong stance, I mean, just natural stance, doing what is right and protecting people. We saw a lot of young people join us and start following us on Instagram until we got to about 45,000 followers and then it was capped. We didn’t move above that because it was controlled by Meta. But then what we noticed was that initially my posts about COVID and standing up against the government’s regime we’re drawing a lot of favourable comments, but climate, my posts about climate fraud, we’re not drawing mainly comments. 

And then over the ensuing years, bit by bit, people started realising that… They said this to me, younger people in their 20s and 30s said, “We looked at COVID. We could see the fraud that was going on there and the control mechanisms being put in place. And then we looked at climate in new eyes and we started seeing the same traits, the same characteristics in that.” And then they realised climate fraud is just a control mechanism as well. What they’re wanting, Alex, is they’re wanting to control our food supply, and they’ve made that clear. They’re wanting to control our energy, they already control the money. They’re wanting to get rid of cash so that we become totally dependent on a digital ID, a digital currency and social credit. They want to control our movements, our transport. They want to surveil us. So, that’s what they’re trying to do, and what we’ve been doing is just telling them to go to hell and just exposing it because we’ve got to get people away. 

In a totalitarian state, as you well know as you’ve said many times, the people are afraid of the government. In a true democracy, a true democracy… and I don’t believe we live in a true democracy. In a true democracy, the government is afraid of the people because the people are in charge. And our country was the first in the world and the only country in the world in which the people had a vote on the Constitution before it came into play. The people are the only people who can change our Constitution, Alex. So, we are in charge. We are the top level of sovereignty in our country, and what we’ve been doing is we’ve been sleeping and taking everything for granted, and now we’ve got to stand up for our country and fight for it. 

Alex Jones: Absolutely. We have Australian National Senator Malcolm Roberts. He is our guest here, and I want to start playing a few clips. We’re going to go to break and come back and cover more of this. I want to play clip number one. Roberts, the plan of the Great Reset is that you will die with nothing, and that’s their public plan. Everything will be rented and you can’t rent it unless you’ve got good favorability with a social credit score, and they’ll always be raising the bar. Let’s play that clip, then back to back with clip two about COVID. Here it is. 

Video: Instead of working together to push Klaus Schwab’s World Economic Forum plan based on United Nations’ policies, work together instead for our country. Klaus Schwab’s “life by subscription”, quote, is really serfdom. It’s slavery. Billionaire globalist corporations will own everything, homes, factories, farms, cars, furniture, and everyday citizens will rent what they need if their social credit score allows. The plan of the Great Reset is that you will die with nothing. To pull off this evil plan, Klaus Schwab’s World Economic Forum will need to take more than just material possessions from Australians. Senators in this very chamber today who support the Great Reset threaten our privacy, freedom, and dignity. Yes, they’re in this Senate Chamber. One Nation vehemently opposes the Great Reset, the Digital Identity Bill, theft of agricultural land use, forcing farmers off their land, and all of the Great Reset. One Nation has a comprehensive plan to bring our beautiful country back to sustainable prosperity, and in the months ahead, we will be rolling that plan out. 

Instead of Lib-Lab pushing Klaus Schwab’s Great Reset with the tagline, “You’ll own nothing and be happy,” One Nation advocates the Great Resist. We stand for a world where individuals and communities have primacy over predatory globalist billionaires and their quisling bureaucrats, politicians, and mouthpiece media. One Nation accepts the challenge to provide a better future for everyday Australians. We have one flag. We are one community, and we are one nation. 

It’s become clear that people in this country and globally have been steamrolled. It is also clear that it has been coordinated globally. It is also clear that it has been integrated not just over six months, not just over two and a half years, but it has been planned over decades. The changes to legislation in this country were done so that they could control doctors and people. But the people are waking, and it’s thanks to people like Dr. Altman and all the presenters here today, thanks to people like Senator Babet and Craig Kelly. We know and we knew that this is all bullshit and that we’ve been had. But we are going to hound you down, the people that are guilty, we are going to hound you down and hold you accountable and we will expose your global agenda so that the people of Australia can be free in the future, because I love my kids and I’m looking forward to my grandkids, and we are going to save this country. 

Alex Jones: That’s Senator Malcolm Roberts. We’re going to go on a break here in a few minutes and come back and get a whole bunch of topics and documents he sent. But look, we’re under attack. They’re giving us poison shots. They’re cutting off our energy. They’re literally saying they want to get rid of most of the farms. They’re saying big corporations will own everything. This is tyranny and you have to get aggressive and you have to realise it’s a new type of war. It’s economic war, and that’s not a new type, but the way they’re deploying it is new. 

And what Malcolm Roberts is doing, the senator, is exposing that this is global. We all have the same enemies with Klaus Schwab saying, bragging with David Gergen famously, “We penetrates the cabinets. We controls the cabinets,” and then you’ve got his… They say, “Well, who’s your best minion? Trudeau is the best, and what does Trudeau say? “I want a basic dictatorship. I admire Xi Jinping.” Hillary’s on TV twice the last two weeks saying, “Ban free speech.” New York Times says, “Time to get rid of the Constitution.” I mean, these people aren’t even hiding it anymore. And whereas Australia is ahead on the tyranny and behind on the awakening, because I followed it closely, it’s explosive and you see it going straight up here. It’s starting to go straight up in Australia and Europe, and it’s exciting. Elon Musk is full in. All the top talk show hosts are full in. Populists are winning elections everywhere. It’s happening. 

We’ll be right back with Senator Malcolm Roberts straight ahead, and we’ll tell you about their party and more and how you get involved in their organisation. We’re all one nation, the human nation, against the new world order. 

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Alex Jones: We’re about to recapture the whole country when we get Trump elected. They already tried to kill him twice. There’s other assassinations public doesn’t know about. I want to quantify something before we go back to Senator Malcolm Roberts in Australia, and I don’t tell the stories that’s about me, it’s about understanding and giving people a lot of hope because they have the facts. I’ve been on the air 30 years and we were already number one on Shoutcast and internet streaming ahead of music 23, 24 years ago. There was almost no news about the new world order and the globalist and the unelected EU, and nobody really knew who Nigel Farage was, but he had his new party with only a few members and we would get him on. Decade later, and you can find the clips, he came on without me even asking. He was, “I am on as a guest about something else,” and he said, “Half the support in UKIP came from your show,” because we were number 45 at times, biggest website in the UK according to Alexa tracking. 

So, we were in the 40s for years, and we had millions of people just in the UK alone tuning in every week via 14-bit streams that we were streaming out and paying for ourselves. It sounded like a tin can, but people were listening and that just shows how infectious, in a good way, the truth is because I was showing documents, I was showing reality, and they had Brexit and the globalist came in and manipulated that and tried to block it. Now, there’s all these EU countries trying to leave, but it’s unelected at the top with the EU Commission. It’s hard to do, but we’re not going to take things back right away. They’ve got a lot of tricks up their sleeve. But just look what this show did with my guests and everybody in the UK and Nigel Farage saying, “UKIP blew up because of this show.” He’d go to people’s doors and at first they know who he was. He’d talk to them, they go, “Oh, I saw you and Alex Jones. Yeah, I’m going to support the party.” 

So, it’s like fire. We can burn down tyranny, I mean that as a non-violent analogy, with this. And you don’t just need Alex Jones, you’ve got Malcolm Roberts, you’ve got tens of thousands of prominent men and women around the world fighting this. But then you’ve got Elon Musk converting to reality because he’s seen the tyranny for himself, and now he’s as, quote, “hardcore” as I am. So, Malcolm, I wanted to ask you about Elon Musk and just how big a game changer you think he is on this because he’s exposing the climate power grab, the depopulation plan, the COVID power grab, the ESG scores. At the world government conference of the WEF last year, he told them their face they’re a global tyranny. I mean, Elon Musk I think in many ways is more important than Trump. What’s your view on him? 

Malcolm Roberts: He is very, very important. I don’t know him too much in detail, and I don’t talk about things I don’t know a lot about. But I do know one thing about him for sure, and that is that our eSafety commissar in this country, Julie Inman Grant… She’s a bureaucrat looking to censor people. She was appointed by the liberals, and she’s now getting her powers enhanced by the Labour Party. She’s an American, and she’s come over here and she’s head of our eSafety division, which is an internet censorship. She took him on. She used to be employed by Twitter when it was called Twitter, then he bought it out. She recently took him to court, and she lost. She absolutely got smashed. 

Alex Jones: Beautiful. 

Malcolm Roberts: Anybody who takes on the eSafety commissar is a good guy to me. I look at what people do, not what they say, and I look at what he’s done on X and now he’s opened that up. We used to get suppressed and heavily censored on X, or Twitter as it was. Now, we’re free again and we’re saying whatever we want to say. The best way to protect truth and to determine the truth, Alex, as you know, is to have free speech debate, open debate, that’s the best way, and what we’ve got is a bureaucrat wanting to control that. So, Elon’s standing up against that, and that is fundamental to human progress. 

The number one trade, number one key to human progress is freedom. Because one thing humans are doing, we’re very, very creative. You might come up with an idea, you might share it with someone else. That second person blows it out of the water. Then third person gets the idea and makes a wonderful product or service out of it. That’s the beauty of humans, that we communicate and we travel. That’s the essence of humans, and we do so with good motives, most of us, that Elon Musk is lighting that up again, allowing that to happen. 

When I was first elected into the Senate, I just barely squeaked in. Our party boss said, “Let’s go up to the park, and we’ll have a media conference.” And there, I was asked the usual. I had about 20 journalists in front of me and my wife and my son. The journalists were asking all the nice questions like, “How many kids you got? What are your hobbies? Blah, blah, blah.” And then one guy was off to the side and I noticed him off to the side, and he stood up and he said after a while, in words that were inoffensive but the tone was basically, “You are that wanker who thinks that this global climate change is all about global governance.” Most politicians in that position would’ve said, “That’s not what I went… That’s not…” But I just looked at him and said, “Yes, that’s correct. Next question.” He didn’t know what to do. My point is that we need to stand up together, all of us, with Elon Musk and speak the truth. That’s the fundamental thing we need to do. 

Alex Jones: What you just said, Senator, is the key. Stop apologising for telling the truth. Stop acting like the establishment has the authority, they’re losing it, the people are turning against it, and own being the black sheep, the rebel against tyranny, being the Robin Hood. You raised that. I noticed you sent me some key articles here. They’re doing the same thing here. “Oh, we’re going to create an internet ID. It’s in Canada, Australia, the US, Europe, it’s just for the kids.” But then they admit this internet ID is for everybody to bring in the social credit score, the ESG, just like they tried to use vaccine passports as that. Bill Gates, the UN admits it. So, this is critical to their total control to get this in. They’re so close all over the world. Describe what’s happening, “Australia plans to bar young children from social media.” Sounds nice, but what’s really happening? 

Malcolm Roberts: That’s just a way of putting something in place for rolling it out to everyone, just giving themselves the power to do it, to control everyone. Alex, take a step back and look at what’s going on. They stole farmers’ property rights. The fundamental trait in human civilizations is secure property rights. That drives our initiative. It drives our sense of responsibility, drives innovation. That, they stole, and it was the right wing who supposedly, right-wing government… I don’t like using left and right. It’s bullshit. It’s just a fabrication. But our conservative, our liberal government, stole farmers’ property rights in 1996 to 2007 under John Howard’s governance. Now, he was supposed to be one of the best prime ministers. When I look into some of the things he’s done, many people don’t realise it. So, what I’m saying is, they’re wolves in sheep’s clothing. 

Both parties are pushing this agenda. They stole farmers’ property rights, which is fundamental, they’re destroying family, there’s controlling speech, they’re destroying religion, bad-mouthing Christianity, which gave us our Western Civilization, the fundamentals of Western Civilization, our values, and they’re putting controls in place like this social media control that you’re talking about. They’re doing all the things that a communist party would do because they are communist in their approach. What I’m saying is that the blue party here, the liberals, the so-called free enterprise party, and the red party, the Labour Party, the supposedly socialist party are pushing this, but the Socialist Party is not doing things for workers. I’ve had to take on the Socialist Government over wage theft of workers losing up to $41,000 per year per person, and they’re wanting to cover it up and we are still fighting on that. 

Alex Jones: Oh, that’s just like the unions selling out workers here. Next topic you sent, and this is happening in the United States very quietly. I have two people, 20 years ago, was in the documents. Now, they’re doing it in California, they’re doing it in Oregon, they’re doing it in Colorado, New York. In your country, Energex, that’s a big company, remotely cuts power to 170,000 air conditioners six times in a month, and now they’re giving people notices on their digital thermostats that they’ve taken control of it for climate change, and again just like Enron was caught scamming people and charging more. This is technocracy. Explain what this is, Senator. 

Malcolm Roberts: This is control of energy. Because once you have control, as Kissinger himself have said, one of the most evil globalists of all, “If you can control energy, food, and money, you have control of the country.” And then that’s what they’re doing here. It’s technocracy. They also have encouraged people through massive subsidies that we pay for. I won’t fall for the scam, so I have refused to have solar panels put on my roof. What they’ve done now is they’re wanting to turn off your solar panels from feeding energy into the grid because the grid is unstable. We used to have the world’s cheapest electricity in the world because of our coal-fired power stations. Now, we’ve got amongst the most expensive because we’ve got the highest level of subsidies. There’s so many things, Alex. 

What they’re trying to do now is put smart metres to not only control air conditioners and when you’ll use your power and how you’ll use it, but to actually control the supply from the house solar panels into the grid. And also when they shut it down, you won’t be able to use the power generated on your own bloody solar panels. That’s what they’re trying to do. They’re trying to control the whole way we live. Look at it, they’re destroying it. 

Alex Jones: Same thing being done here. Same thing in Europe. They put in the solar panels, get you to pay for it, claim there’s a rebate, and then turn around later and say, “Oh, it isn’t working in the grid.” And then now they’re trying to pass laws in some areas where you can’t have your own independent solar panels. 

Malcolm Roberts: Right. So, what we’re also doing, Alex, is we are paying subsidies which drive up the cost of our electricity. We’re paying subsidies to parasitic billionaires, parasitic corporations, mostly foreign-owned, many of them from China, to instal solar and wind here, which is driving up the cost of electricity. The number one cost component in manufacturing today, it’s not labour, it’s electricity. Labour is based out of manufacturing because of the mechanisation and the control automation. So, electricity. Now, what happens is we buy our bloody solar panels and our wind turbines from China. China imports some of our coal for them to make those things. So, we’re sending them our resources. We’re a bigger supplier of iron ore for their steel, which goes into turbines. So, we’re supplying the resources to China. China is then turning that into coal-fired power at 8 cents a kilowatt hour. We’re using the same power here with no transport costs, and we’re selling it at 25 to 30 cents per kilowatt hour. Our manufacturing is going broke and being shipped to China. Our factories and work and jobs- 

Alex Jones: Absolutely… 

Malcolm Roberts: … are being shipped to China. So, we are supplying them with that. We are the world’s largest exporters of hydrocarbon fuels. That’s coal, oil, and natural gas. We’ve got huge exports of coal and natural gas. The largest exporter, we can’t use the stuff here, but we can send it to China and let them generate cheap electricity out of it and smash us. And then [inaudible 00:39:33]. 

Alex Jones: And that’s because the globalists have made a deal with them. They made a deal to do that that Trump was trying to kill. 

Malcolm Roberts: Correct. 

Alex Jones: Talking about coal, we have clean burning coal plants, so they put out carbon dioxide and water vapour. So, they list carbon dioxide as toxic, as you said. It’s one of the four keys of life, water, sunlight, oxygen, carbon dioxide, and they are shutting it down all over the West and moving it all to China and India and Mexico that have dirty plants. It’s totally insane. But, again, it centralises power. 

Malcolm Roberts: Exactly. It gives them control over us. That’s what they’re wanting to do. We also know that what they’re wanting to do is smash down private enterprise, private initiative, private ownership. That’s what I mentioned in my speech about the Great Reset. They’re wanting to smash private ownership and then you’ll become dependent on them. So, whether you get your food, whether you get your electricity, you’ll depend on your social credit score. This has all been done. It’s being done in China. They want to turn us. Alex, before the Industrial Revolution, there was basically feudalism, and we were serfs on land that the baron or the lord of the manor controlled and he gave us the use of enough land to sustain ourselves, but he took most of our work results. He took most of the product, the fruits of our labour. 

What they’re wanting to do now… And then we had the Industrial Revolution, we had the development of science, and science is wonderful because it’s the basis of freedom. Because up until science, someone with the strongest religious fear, someone with the biggest army, the financial power, the property ownership, they controlled what we said, what we did, how we lived, whether or not we lived at times in the so-called civilised countries at the time. They lost all of that when science came out and started making decisions based on our objective data, but they also lost it with the Industrial Revolution. We had a huge middle-class burgeon across the western world that freed slaves. So, we had slavery abolished, we had a middle-class rising, we had the people having the power through choice through private enterprise and the philosophy- 

Alex Jones: Instead, they’re teaching us to hate the West because the globalists have written their own books. We’ve covered it here that if the world aspires to the civil wars and the things that happened in what is England today, in Scotland, Ireland that then develop the freedoms that spread to America and the rest of the world, the flower or the Renaissance, if the world aspires to the ideas that we promoted in a middle-class and freedom, that makes globalism look terrible and no one’s going to want it. But if they can discredit and de-industrialise and culturally destroy the West, then everyone will fall to this new corporate world government hellhole. 

Malcolm Roberts: Exactly. I’ve been in all 50 of yours American states. I went over there when I was 24, and I fell in love with [inaudible 00:42:28]. I mean, I’m very proud of my country, but I loved America. I mean, America, and I’ve got to put a caveat on that, has been decimated in the last 30 years thanks to- 

Alex Jones: I want to ask- 

Malcolm Roberts: … both the Obamas, the Clintons. I mean, you’ve been ruled by criminals and literally ruled. But I was fascinated by America, all 50 states. It was nothing to just be driving through some place in bankrupt black box of Idaho or Iowa and see a massive building constructed by someone and across the top of the portal would be dedicated to people of the world, and it was genuine. I felt the energy. I arrived just before Reagan took over and I was there when he took over, and I felt the energy. He picked up the whole damn country and said, “Stop being embarrassed and stop being ashamed of your country and be proud.” I’ve never seen so many people lifted up by one person trying to bring back freedom, and that’s the fundamental thing. We’ve got to be free because that’s the key to human prosperity, human civilization. 

What they’re wanting, Alex, to get back to what I was saying before, they’re wanting to take us back to serfdom, and this time it’ll be a digitally-imposed serfdom with restrictions. So, what they’re wanting us to be is producers against serfs and happy little consumers that’ll buy only the products that they want to sell us, which will be drugs and diseases that keep us in disease. They don’t want to kill us, they want to keep us just on the edge of death so that we become lifetime subscribers to big pharma. 

I mean, big pharma controls 75% of the advertising revenue in your country, not in your show, that’s for sure. Defence, they create wars, and your country has turned into… Instead of being the beacon of the world, it is now… It’s got wonderful people still. Americans are just beautiful. I’m married to an American. Our kids are dual citizens because… So, I love Americans, but the government of America has now become a terrorist organisation, willy-nilly just invading any country it will, and that is infected in some of our countries around the world as well because we just madly follow you into war. I mean, it’s just insane, but the people are starting to wake up. 

Alex Jones: Well, let’s talk about that. Senator Malcolm Roberts from Australia, one of the main voices fighting tyranny over there for all of us. And if Australia follows the new order completely, it’s going to be bad for everybody. Looking at the situation of the Russia, Ukraine, looking at the kleptocracy, attempts to kill Trump, what is your view on the war going on there, the Middle East? And then what’s your view on President Trump, and what would’ve happened if Trump would’ve been killed? 

Malcolm Roberts: Well, I don’t know what would’ve happened if Trump had been killed. But I’ll tell you something I do know, and that is what Pauline Hanson, the leader of our party, and I did in the forecourt of Parliament House in Canberra here in Australia, when Donald Trump was elected in 2016, we popped the bottle of champagne to celebrate it. Now, I don’t drink, but we had to show our support. 

If America is free, the world has a better chance of being free. The only way America can be free again is if Trump gets elected. The globalists are terrified. The media, the mouthpiece, media, the Big Brother media, they’re terrified. He got them eating themselves. I mean, he just stood up to them. The man is amazing. So, Donald Trump is essential for the whole damn planet because he is essential, just like Reagan lifted up America. I get goosebumps just thinking about it. Anyway, I won’t get back to the details there. But just like Reagan lifted America up again and revitalised America, Trump can. America is extremely important to the world. We’ve got to get America back on track, and the only person who can get America back on track is Donald Trump. That’s our best hope for the future. 

Alex Jones: Senator Roberts, we’ve only got about three minutes left. There I am having champagne with Roger Stone, election night, 2016. I hope to be doing that again, coming up here in 24 days. We’ve got about three minutes. Very impressive what you’re doing. You’re fighting for all of us. I want everybody out there to share this interview everywhere and get more Australians awake. Every person we wake up is key in this fight. People are ready to be awoken. Three minute closing comments, Sir. 

Malcolm Roberts: I’m fiercely pro-human, Alex. First of all, I want to thank you for what you’re doing. You’re a beacon of hope around the world. I mean, just amazing. I’m fiercely pro-human because humans are wonderful. We’ve got some who are parasites, some who are control freaks, who want to keep us in fear, but we need to remember, always beneath control, there is fear. The parasitic globalists are afraid of us. Tucker Carlson came over here and spoke so wonderfully. He spoke for 50 minutes. And at the end of his show, his call to action was one word, “Speak.” So, everyone around the world start to realise just how wonderful humans are, how caring we are, how loving we are. We’re the only ones with the ability to reason. 

The globalists have been telling us that human civilization and the environment are not compatible. That is complete bullshit. The human civilization, if you go to civilised countries around the world, the higher the development, the lesser the impact on the environment. The future of our civilization depends upon having a healthy environment. The future of the environment depends upon having a healthy civilization because the higher developed our civilization is, the lesser our impact on the environment. That is around the world. Go to a poor country in Africa, and you’ll find them shitting in the creek because they can’t afford any services and they’re too busy scratching for the next meal for their kids. So, look at us here in Australia, in America, civilised, developed countries. We have lower impact on the environment. But our number one goal, they’re telling us, the globalists are telling us, should be to protect the environment. That is complete horse shit. What our number one goal should be is to have our species flourishing, our species to be flourishing. 

So, just remember that what they’re telling us about our human race is lies. What they’re trying to do is set us down for control, keep us under fear. And what we need to do is to recognise just how wonderful we are. Sure, we’ve got people who go off the rails now and then. That’s part of their natural variation, but we’ve got ways of dealing with that. So, just remember that humans are… The future of our planet depends upon humans being humans and flourishing. I believe every human should have one goal, and that is for the human species to flourish. And that means peace, it means cooperation, it means work, it means free markets, it means free thought, it means free speech, free movement, free travel, free association, free exchange. All the things these parasitic bastards of the globalists are trying to get rid of, Alex, is what we need to stand up and fight for. 

Freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of movement, freedom of travel, freedom of association, freedom of initiative, freedom of religion, freedom of thought, freedom of speech, these are the things, fundamental. It’s like they say, “If you’re a doctor at a hospital and they bring in some regime like COVID shots, mandated them, and you stand up alone, then you’ve got a problem. But if the doctors stand up, say 9 out of the 20 doctors at a regional hospital, stand up, the hospital has a problem.” In a totalitarian government, totalitarian country, the people are controlled by the government. In a true democracy, the government is controlled by the people, and that’s what we need to get back to. 

Alex Jones: Absolutely. 

Malcolm Roberts: But it’ll only come back if we speak amongst each other and spread the word, spread what’s going on. So, thank you so much. I’ve got to finish with thanks to you, Alex, because you have been under the pump for years and years and years and you’ve been saying the same thing, and now there are many people around the world waking up. So, thank you and keep going. 

Alex Jones: We salute all of you there in Australia. A lot of great listeners there. God bless you, Sir. We’ll talk soon. 

Malcolm Roberts: Thanks, Alex. 

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